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Hi, thanks in advance for your answers.

For my studies, I'm taking a hypothetical situation and exploring what would happen if it were to be announced that contact had been made with an alien civilisation.

I'm not trying to start a debate on "are we alone", just trying to ascertain what people think would be the hypothetical short / medium / long term impacts upon any of the following:

- religion
- financial markets
- homeland security / crime
- domestic politics
- international relations
- activities of the intelligence communities
- society in general
- the media.

In this circumstance, this alien civilisation is just "out-there", as in absolutely no threat or indication of any imminency relating to 'visits' / invasion / hostility.

Genuine thanks for your time and answers, I value your opinions.

GefleIF.
Thanks David.

Ok here's a few random ones. Could you anticipate what if possible, a general consensus would be within society?

On the whole my own view that nothing much at all would change for most people's lives...

The concept of alternate physics or the confirmation that we're not alone would be a novelty that people got used to. It's only my view.

I'm interested in what such a disclosure would do for major religions, if it would shake their grounding, destabilise?

Economically, would markets suffer? Would stocks be affected?

Would the intelligence agencies change nature / behaviour , in what way?

What about international relations... would wars reduce as civilisations come together? Would it cause more war? Tied in with religion above, I wonder if religious wars would be sparked?

Also, in any of the main religions, is any such event foretold? I'm quite sure this is not the case in Christianity though I believe such a thing is possible in Islam , Jinns.
Dear Mr Commodore,

Greetings from England and many thanks for your time and answers!


Hi, thanks in advance for your answers.

For my studies, I'm taking a hypothetical situation and exploring what would happen if it were to be announced that contact had been made with an alien civilisation.

I'm not trying to start a debate on "are we alone", just trying to ascertain what people think would be the hypothetical short / medium / long term impacts upon any of the following:

- religion
- financial markets
- homeland security / crime
- domestic politics
- international relations
- activities of the intelligence communities
- society in general
- the media.

Genuine thanks for your time and answers, I value your opinions.

GefleIF.
Thanks Ian. In this fictive circumstance, the situation is that there is absolutely no imminency of any kind of 'visit', no perceived threat at all of attacks / invasion.

I'm very much interested in the short term reactions, partiuclarly "day 1" reactions of just finding out through the news media confirmation of a reality that suddenly then includes the "fact" of us not being alone.

The actual disclosure process mentioned above is of a softly-softly approach to attempt to minimise disruption.

A personal thought of mine is, not much would change at all. The novelty would wear off, I'd still go to work tomorrow, have the same family and friends, do the same things etcetc as in, my life wouldnt change. I'm interested to see whether the points above, what changes would happen if any to them. Thanks!


i believe that there are a lot more that has never been announced by the government.


Imagine for a moment that this happened tomorrow....

The Leaders of all the major nations, jointly announce that Extraterrestrial Aliens have arrived and have made friendly contact with us. They bring forth creatures that look somewhat like we do. The Visitors explain that their civilization is millions and millions of years old, and that they are related to us. The explain that all life scattered throughout the Universe is related, much in the way that life is scattered about our planet. The further explain, that their society is responsible for us being here, in that they brought us to Earth a million years ago and combined their own DNA with that of Homo Erectus, in order to create Man. Let's say they showed us DNA evidence to prove it and our scientists judged that it appears to be true. Now, the Visitors say we are ready to join the Universe as a full participatory society as long as we can settle our differences and be one world.

What would be your reaction? Would it change your mind about the Bible? What would society do? Would Earth become one? Would you believe their story? Would you believe our scientists? Or would you think it's the end of your world?


There are reports that say about an hour or two after the military arrived to investigate, a large flatbed truck was escorted to the scene by two U.S. military jeeps; later escorted away from the crash site with the UFO four hours later. People around the world were convinced that the extraterrestrial life had existed since the U.S. Air Force announced that they had an “alien space craft”. The Air Force later changed it mind on the fact that something had crashed into the New Mexico desert by saying that the craft was a “weather balloon”. Based on a lot of eye witness accounts, people have claimed to see alien bodies. These bodies were supposedly taken away in a “special” vehicle that also arrived to the scene. People who claim to have once had parts of the UFO said that the U.S. government had set up a perimeter around the crash site, and went to look for debris from the UFO on a ranch within the perimeter ¾ ones that had weird symbols on them.
the 3/4 is actually an emdash


Oblivion

August 19th, 2004 scientists conclude global warming as a mandatory threat to humanity.” Now please welcome our high school, class of 2004, valedictorian,” the principal announced. Troy Meldo walked silently up to the stage, his hands sweaty, his mind turning all corners as if he were trying to find the solution to a difficult and rigorous math problem. His family peers, and all guest clapping as if he was just elected the new governor of state or something. As Troy spoke his well thought out speech all who gazed assumed he was thinking about his future, how he would plan it, and just about everything a current valedictorian would think about. Little did everyone know all that was going through Troy’s mind was whether he would see the love of his life in the upcoming years?
Samantha who had moved to California was always the up most importance to Troy. All Troy ever thought about was her perfect brunet hair, her beautiful brown eyes, and her wonderful smile that would be responsible for his eyes to awake in the morning. Samantha’s body was very slim but Troy being the gentlemen he was always looked past her sum what flat body look, even though his friends would always ridicule him that she was flat. Aside Samantha, Troy had his whole future ahead of him.
The year 2008, political tensions grow as Barack Obama is elected the new president of the United States. Multiple members of the forgotten Ku Klux Klan riot outside of the White House.
Troy has now legally married Samantha and has finished college. Though Samantha is currently visiting her mother in Florida, and political tensions are at a high Troy still finds time in his life to work at his Doctors Firm and still make it home in time to see the beautiful smile he fell in love with.
May 5th, 2010 Barack Obama has been shot during a political speech. The criminal has also been shot and killed. Vice President Hilary Clinton takes control.
The Life of Troy Meldo is now perfect. He has a wonderful high paying carrier, a wonderful soul mate, and now two children, a boy and a girl. But little did troy know, life was far from being perfect.
December 23rd, 2012 NASA makes first human to extraterrestrial contact. January 14, 2013 aliens begin to exterminate humans, saying “you humans have no right to live in this planet because you are incapable of taking care of it.” “You pitiful humans were not even capable of solving such a simple task of eliminating global warming”. The aliens concluded that they would rebuild planet Earth and never let it become such a terrible place to live as we humans have made it.
With only so many humans left on Earth Troy wonders is Samantha still alive. Is her warm heart still beating, are his children safe, where are they he’s wondering to himself.
April 3rd, 2013 all humans have been wiped off the face of the Earth with only few surviving. As Troy lies on the cold, cracked street of Beverly Hills, only an inch away from death he wonders to himself by saying” what was the point of him growing up, what was the point of him becoming successful and having a wonderful family if all that would become of his world was oblivion?
Troy, Tory wake up sweaty your going your be late for school kid-o. Troy with a relieved face hugged his mom as hard as he could. “Mommy I had the most scariest and terrible dream”, Troy could not stop repeating the words. “Its o.k. honey it was only a dream, she said. But deep down Troy knew there was more to the dream then either he or his mother anticipated. Troy understood what, and why he had such a horrific dream.
August 19th, 2004 Scientists conclude global warming as a mandatory threat to humanity. The year 2008, Troy Meldo is elected president of the United States of America. May 5th, 2010 global warming is officially a non threat to humanity by world scientist and world leaders. December 23rd, 2012 NASA makes first human to extraterrestrial contact. January 14th, 2013 Alien beings are legally made planet Earth Citizens. April 3rd, 2013 planet earth officially made an alien tourist spot.
Troy now was the leader of the unites states, living with his childhood friend Samantha as his first lady, and his two beautiful children who he could see from a far playing with little alien children were now the most important things in his life. Though deep in his conscience Troy still wonders was his dream he had as a child a wake up call or was it something more. All Troy knows now is he is what separated planet Earth from what it is know and oblivion.


Oblivion

August 19th, 2004 scientists conclude global warming as a mandatory threat to humanity.” Now please welcome our high school, class of 2004, valedictorian,” the principal announced. Troy Meldo walked silently up to the stage, his hands sweaty, his mind turning all corners as if he were trying to find the solution to a difficult and rigorous math problem. His family peers, and all guest clapping as if he was just elected the new governor of state or something. As Troy spoke his well thought out speech all who gazed assumed he was thinking about his future, how he would plan it, and just about everything a current valedictorian would think about. Little did everyone know all that was going through Troy’s mind was whether he would see the love of his life in the upcoming years?
Samantha who had moved to California was always the up most importance to Troy. All Troy ever thought about was her perfect brunet hair, her beautiful brown eyes, and her wonderful smile that would be responsible for his eyes to awake in the morning. Samantha’s body was very slim but Troy being the gentlemen he was always looked past her sum what flat body look, even though his friends would always ridicule him that she was flat. Aside Samantha, Troy had his whole future ahead of him.
The year 2008, political tensions grow as Barack Obama is elected the new president of the United States. Multiple members of the forgotten Ku Klux Klan riot outside of the White House.
Troy has now legally married Samantha and has finished college. Though Samantha is currently visiting her mother in Florida, and political tensions are at a high Troy still finds time in his life to work at his Doctors Firm and still make it home in time to see the beautiful smile he fell in love with.
May 5th, 2010 Barack Obama has been shot during a political speech. The criminal has also been shot and killed. Vice President Hilary Clinton takes control.
The Life of Troy Meldo is now perfect. He has a wonderful high paying carrier, a wonderful soul mate, and now two children, a boy and a girl. But little did troy know, life was far from being perfect.
December 23rd, 2012 NASA makes first human to extraterrestrial contact. January 14, 2013 aliens begin to exterminate humans, saying “you humans have no right to live in this planet because you are incapable of taking care of it.” “You pitiful humans were not even capable of solving such a simple task of eliminating global warming”. The aliens concluded that they would rebuild planet Earth and never let it become such a terrible place to live as we humans have made it.
With only so many humans left on Earth Troy wonders is Samantha still alive. Is her warm heart still beating, are his children safe, where are they he’s wondering to himself.
April 3rd, 2013 all humans have been wiped off the face of the Earth with only few surviving. As Troy lies on the cold, cracked street of Beverly Hills, only an inch away from death he wonders to himself by saying” what was the point of him growing up, what was the point of him becoming successful and having a wonderful family if all that would become of his world was oblivion?
Troy, Tory wake up sweaty your going your be late for school kid-o. Troy with a relieved face hugged his mom as hard as he could. “Mommy I had the most scariest and terrible dream”, Troy could not stop repeating the words. “Its o.k. honey it was only a dream, she said. But deep down Troy knew there was more to the dream then either he or his mother anticipated. Troy understood what, and why he had such a horrific dream.
August 19th, 2004 Scientists conclude global warming as a mandatory threat to humanity. The year 2008, Troy Meldo is elected president of the United States of America. May 5th, 2010 global warming is officially a non threat to humanity by world scientist and world leaders. December 23rd, 2012 NASA makes first human to extraterrestrial contact. January 14th, 2013 Alien beings are legally made planet Earth Citizens. April 3rd, 2013 planet earth officially made an alien tourist spot.
Troy now was the leader of the unites states, living with his childhood friend Samantha as his first lady, and his two beautiful children who he could see from a far playing with little alien children were now the most important things in his life. Though deep in his conscience Troy still wonders was his dream he had as a child a wake up call or was it something more. All Troy knows now is he is what separated planet Earth from what it is know and oblivion.


In 1989, Robert Scott Lazar claimed to have worked as a physicist at a hidden base referred to as S4 on a highly classified project involving back engineering of alien technology, antigravity and antimatter propulsion. Stanton Friedman doesn't believe him. But have scientists just proven Lazar was right all along?

RNU.com – (Raiders News Update) - Yesterday, in the article, "How to float like a stone", science correspondent for The Guardian, David Adam wrote that what goes up no longer has to come down. Quoting researchers who announced their results this week in the New Journal of Physics, Adams noted that, "British scientists have developed an antigravity machine that can float heavy stones, coins and lumps of metal in mid-air. Based around a powerful magnet, the device levitates objects in a similar way to how a maglev train runs above its tracks."

The article went on to quote Peter King, physics professor at Nottingham University, as saying, "We can take an object and float it in mid-air because the magnetic forces on the object are enough to balance gravity."

The device evidently exploits diamagnetism by placing non-magnetic objects inside a strong magnetic field where they are forced to act like weak magnets themselves. A field is created that is stronger below and weaker above. The resulting upward magnetic force cancels out gravity.

To make the anti gravity machine even more powerful, the team used an oxygen and nitrogen mixture to create a paramagnetic fluid. Inside the magnet, the mixture helps the objects float. US space agency Nasa notified the team that it is interested in their zero gravity research.

UFO buffs may recall a man named Bob Lazar [left] discussing a similar antigravity propulsion system over a decade ago, one that he said came from aliens. Lazar claimed to have worked as a physicist on a highly classified government project, called Galileo, which involved back engineering of alien technology. The research supposedly took place at a hidden base known only as S4, a few miles south of Area 51.

At the time, Lazar said he and others were working on extraterrestrial craft hundreds of years in advance of modern technology. He also claimed to have seen a total of nine different types of saucers as well as documents and autopsies of alien corpses. The saucer-type he professed to have worked on had a diameter of 9-12 m with a console and small, children-sized seats. He said he was told the aliens arrived in the vessel from the fourth planet of the binary stellar system Zeta Reticuli 2.

In "On the Record" with investigative reporter George Knapp, September 12, 1989, Lazar said the alien craft flew by amplifying gravity waves through use of a reactor and an alien element--atomic number 115--an ore not found or synthesized on earth.

When asked to explain how the alien antigravity system worked, the program took an interesting twist:

Lazar: Inside that tower is a chip of Element 115 they just put in there. That's a super-heavy element. The lid goes on top. And as far as any other of the workings of it, I really don't know, you know, [such as] what's inside the bottom of it . . . 115 sets up a gravitational field around the top. That little wave guide you saw being put on the top: it essentially siphons off the gravity wave, and that's later amplified in the lower portion of the craft. But just in general, the whole technology is virtually unknown.

Knapp: Now we saw the model. We saw the pictures of it there. It looks really, really simple, almost too simple to actually do anything.

Lazar: Right.

Knapp: Working parts?

Lazar: None detectable. Essentially, what the job was was to back- engineer everthing, where you have a finished product and to step backwards and find out how it was made or how it could be made with earthly materials. There hasn't been very much progress.

Knapp: How long do you think they've had this technology up there?

Lazar: It seems like quite a while, but I really don't know.

Knapp: What could you do with an anti-matter generator? What does it do?

Lazar: It converts anti-matter . . . It doesn't convert anti-matter! There's an annihilation reaction. It's an extremely powerful reaction, a hundred percent conversion of matter to energy, unlike a fission or fusion reaction which is somewhere around eight-tenths of one percent conversion of matter to energy.

Knapp: How does it work? What starts the reaction going?

Lazar: Really, once the 115 is put in, the reaction is initiated.

Knapp: Automatic.

Lazar: Right.

Knapp: I don't understand. I mean, there's no button to push or anything?

Lazar: No, there's no button to push or anything. Apparently, the 115 under bombardment with protons lets out an anti-matter particle. This anti-matter particle will react with any matter whatsoever, which I imagine there is some target system inside the reactor. This, in turn, releases heat, and somewhere within that system there is a one-hundred-percent- efficient thermionic generator, essentially a heat-to-electrical generator.

Knapp: How is this anti-matter reactor connected to gravity generation that you were talking about earlier?

Lazar: Well, that reactor serves two purposes; it provides a tremendous amount of electrical power, which is almost a by-product. The gravitational wave gets formed at the sphere, and that's through some action of the 115, and the exact action I don't think anyone really knows. The wave guide siphons off that gravity wave, and that's channeled above the top of the disk to the lower part where there are three gravity amplifiers, which amplify and direct that gravity wave.

Knapp: In essence creating their own gravitational field.

Lazar: Their own gravitational field.

Knapp: You're fairly convinced that science on earth doesn't have this technology right now? We have it now at S-4, I guess, but we didn't create it?

Lazar: Right.

Knapp: Why not? Why couldn't we?

Lazar: The technology's not even—we don't even know what gravity is!

Knapp: Well, what is it? What have you learned about what gravity is?

Lazar: Gravity is a wave. There are many different theories, wave included. It's been theorized that gravity is also particles, gravitons, which is also incorrect. But gravity is a wave. The basic wave they can actually tap off of an element: why that is I' m not exactly sure.

Knapp: So you can produce your own gravity. What does that mean? What does that allow you to do?

Lazar: It allows you to do virtually anything. Gravity distorts time and space. By doing that, now you're into a different mode of travel, where instead of traveling in a linear method going from Point A to B, now you can distort time and space to where you essentially bring the mountain to Mohammad, you almost bring your destination to you without moving. And since you're distorting time, all this takes place in between moments of time. [1]

Now, have British scientists proven Lazar was telling the truth? Have they let the alien anti-gravity-cat out of the bag? I asked nuclear physicist and renowned UFO investigator Stanton T. Friedman. Here is what he said:

The simple answer is no. One could also say a rocket was an antigravity device because its exhaust leads to it moving upward whereas gravity pulls it down. A pulley arrangement for lifting something is not an antigravity device. The use of magnetic forces as in the magnetic train (maglev) that is noted in the article is not new. It does not create a gravitational field. It does not nullify gravity. A force is exerted which is upward. Gravity is still there. There is no connection whatsoever between this sort of device and the Lazar science fiction device which is as mythical as his supposed degrees from MIT and Cal Tech and his employment as a physicist at Los Alamos. Check out my article on Lazar at my website www.stantonfriedman.com. Incidently, magnetoaerodynamic devices such as I described in my Congressional testimony in 1968 and in various papers can also exert upward forces... but are not anti-gravity. It is also true that 4 atoms of Element 115 were created at a huge accelerator in Dubna. Half life was in the millisecond range. Lazar claimed at one time that Los Alamos had 500 pounds. No way Jose. Half life is too short. Stan Friedman

I also decided to ask scientist Stan Deyo about the subject. Stan has held Above Top Secret Security Clearance, worked undercover for the FBI, and was part of an exclusive "black project" headed by Dr. Edward Teller specializing in the development of "flying saucer technology". Here's what Stan said:

Hi, Tom, Stanton and I concur about Bob and his mythical tale about his involvement in the Area 51 program. Furthermore, I agree with Stanton on the erroneous assertion in the article above. Using two magnets to levitate masses with low magnetic permeability is not "antigravity" in the strictest sense. It is magnetic levitation - not something altering the gravitational field. I find Bob's story about his history being erased by the government hard to believe. According to him, even his high school record was erased.... Does that mean all the kids who went to school with him had Bob's photo removed from their personal copies of their high school annual books? Does that mean all Bob's fellow students and his teachers in ALL those schools and universities he allegedly attended found him so unremarkable that they cannot remember him in school with them? I don't know why Bob apparently fabricated so much of his story.... It just muddied the water for those trying to ferret the truth of the suppressed technologies and alien presences on our world. It is true that electricity can be produced by thermionic conversion within a small bandwidth of infrared radiation by allowing it to fall upon a tribo-luminescent stratum which, itself, forms part of a tuned, resonant-cavity circuit.... I am pretty certain that T. Henry Moray (and possibly Harry E. Perrigo) made primitive forms of this circuit. Element 115 is not necessary to supply the thermal energy in a thermionic conversion process. I will be presenting a talk in Roswell this year at the third "Ancient of Days" conference. There, I will present my thoughts on the emerging concept of "gravity" being a vector sum between divergent and convergent spinning waves around the center of spin of a mass. I will address the issue of why gravity appears to be such a weak force when in reality gravity is the resultant of much larger div/con wave vectors. Hope this helps clear the water a bit.... Stan





Scientists announced today that they've discovered signs of recent liquid water on Mars.

It's a far cry from declaring life on Mars, past or present, but IF life were to be discovered on Mars, how would it affect people spiritually? Is this concept incompatible with mainstream religions? How might believers explain the presence of extraterrestrial life?